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From:  "Carl Wilson" <carl_wilson58@h...>
Date:  Wed Sep 18, 2002  5:53 am
Subject:  Re: [TheHickmanReport] Hoaxes and harassment

I find it more than just a little ironic that your motto is To Truth & Advancement, yet you are more than willing to join Jim Hickman's little Crusade without hearing both sides of the story first.
 
First of all, Jim isn't being harassed.  He made several claims in a public forum, and I challenged the accuracy of those claims.  Does simply challenging any claim made by UFOlogists in a public forum constitute harassment in the world of UFOlogy? 
 
Jim claimed on his web site that he proved that the Lawton Triangle was a hoax.  The fact is he was alerted to this fact by a message posed by me to several usenet newsgroups.  You can read the original message on Bruce Maccabee's web site at http://brumac.8k.com/LawtonTriangle/Lawtontriangle.html and see for yourself if you like.
 
Jim was then scheduled to be a call-in guest on the Jerry Pippin show.  As the  show began, they announced that Jim Hickman was going to be their guest, and that he was going to discuss how he proved that the Lawton Triangle was a hoax.  I called in and challenged this claim.  Jim never called in.  Repeated attempts by the hosts to call him resulted in nothing but busy signals. 
 
I emailed Jim and asked why he didn't call in to the show.  He claimed that the power was out because of storms, so he was unable to use his cordless phone.  There are several problems with this.  First of all, had the power been out as he claimed, the hosts of the show would have heard Jim's phone ringing, they would not have heard a busy signal.  Yet you could clearly hear a busy signal every time they tried to cal him.  Secondly, I called the Elk City Fire Department and asked them if there had been any power or phone service outages on the night in question.  Their answer was that there had been no storms, no power outages, and no phone service outages.
 
We often hear UFO proponents bemoaning supposed government cover-ups and conspiracies, yet what do we have here?  UFO proponents seeking ways to silence their critics, even with violence if necessary.  Pretty sad and pathetic if you ask me. 
 
So much for "Truth & Advancement", eh?  Perhaps you should consider changing it to "Silence the Unbeliever"
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TheHickmanReport] Hoaxes and harassment

Jim,

I am 100% behind you on this.  Has anyone tried to get his phone #?  Or have you or anyone else asked him for it so direct dialog may occur?  Or if now would you like me to pursue this avenue?   I've often found direct communication, with no fear, and possible 'open public exposure' is the best approach.  Let me know if you want to talk.  Best not to aggravate the situation with physical implications.

There are also some specialty programs like Neo-Trace that will track his URL right to the doorstep.

Consider it a compliment though Jim!  It means your doing something very worthwhile!   (-:

To Truth & Advancement

Steve Moreno


President, Psi APPLICATIONS  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  International Director (U.S.A.), UFORC
Humanity's Right To Know !


At 18:32 2002/09/15 -0500, you wrote:
Greetings!

Recently, I have been receiving emails, phone calls, false usenet
postings, and just general harassment here at home from a new kind of
skeptic "commando" group that uses nothing but fear and harassment as
their tools of warfare.

It has now become a issue that we all must now face as a group. I hope
the entire UFO community stands behind me on this issue. I for one
refuse to stand by and let this continue.

The main group behind this tactic calls itself "Kook-Watch" and someone
using a name of Carl Wilson seems to run it and has taken a personal
likening to me, and he is now stalking my every move.

Here is a WHOIS from NSI on his website:

Carl Wilson, <carl_w@swbell.net>
103 SW 68th St.
Lawton, OK 73505
Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: KOOK-WATCH.NET
Created on: 24-DEC-01
Expires on: 24-DEC-02
Last Updated on: 24-DEC-01

Btw, this is the same person who wasted hours of my (and Dr. Maccabee's)
investigative time on the so-called "lawton ufo case" which "carl"
(using a false name) came to me for help, and when I get him the best
expert help in the field "carl" declares the case to be a hoax!. I don't
understand the logic of this tactic, it does make him look rather silly.


This group is also behind the recent "Col. Wilson is alive" emails that
did nothing but harass a woman who had nothing to do with any of this.
That poor woman is beside herself in fear.

I have tried contacting his ISP to no avail, I have contacted the local
police, they can't help. I hope it doesn't have to come down to me
having to take personal action as that is a last resort that I will use-
if forced into it.

I hope I can get the support of the UFO community as a whole and we as a
group can come up with an answer to this major problem, so this kind of
thing doesn't happen to each of you next...

I'm sure that "carl" will post this on one of his little usenet groups
and cause me further grief for exposing him.

Your ideas are always welcome, and as always you can contact me at:
jim@thehickmanreport.com

Jim Hickman





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