From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Tue Apr 2, 2002 4:55am
Subject: Fw: New sighting

Damn!  Jim Hickman would really be pissed off if I told him the photo he attached below is yet another one of my fakes!   ----- Original Message ----- From: The Hickman Report To: 'Joe W' Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: RE: New sighting Actually, we received 149 sighting cases in Oklahoma last year, about average. It fluctuates quite a bit, one year; (1952) they had nearly 2000 sightings nationwide and a local Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper was "buzzed" by a ufo in his patrol aircraft, however, photo's are quite rare. I have enclosed a copy of a photo taken near Ft. Sill in 1997. Jim   -----Original Message----- From: Joe W [mailto:joe73505@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:38 PM To: Mufon Subject: Re: New sighting I recently did a web search for Oklahoma UFO sightings, and it seems Oklahoma has had quite a number of them.  Did they get any pictures by any chance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mufon" To: "'Joe W'" Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: New sighting > Hi Joe, I wanted to let you know I just received another sighting > report from your area, near Cyril. They had 4 witness's and it was > described as "2 to 5 lights 3 conventional aircraft buzzing", I just > got the report but the date of their sighting was 2/11/02. > > Looks like SW Okla. Is getting hot again. > > Take Care! > > Jim > > Jim Hickman > Author, "5000 years of UFO's" > MUFON Research Specialist for Media Operations > www.mufon.com > www.TheHickmanReport.com > "When the going gets weird-There we are" > >

Attachment 4k (image/jpeg) ufo1.jpg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sat Apr 13, 2002 8:31pm
Subject: Fw: Sighting posted on web site

----- Original Message -----
From: "bruce maccabee" <brumac@c...>
To: "Joe W" <Joe73505@h...>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:11 PM
Subject: Sighting posted on web site


I have now posted my discussion and analysis of your sighitng on my web
site.
http://brumac.8k.com.
Scroll down a bit. it is the first sighting presented (triangle).
I have not "formally" announced this yet, so if you have any problems with
it or
find some error, please let me know.

--------------------------------------------------
Note:  Actual link to analysis is
http://brumac.8k.com/LawtonTriangle/LawtonTriangle.html


"What could this have been?  It certainly doesn't seem to be any military
device or any type of
object normally in the sky.  Internally lighted blimps seem like very
strange objects at night,
but they have a distinctive shape.  (There was a rash of blimp sightings and
videos back in the
early 1990's, so we have video "data" on the types of images they
make...nothing like this.)
Hence, unless someone has a better idea, I would have to classify this as a
True UFO (TRUFO),
which might be some sort of Alien Flying Craft (AFC) (or two such craft?)" -
Bruce Maccabee

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Sat Apr 13, 2002 10:43pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Sighting posted on web site

The Lawton Triangle??!!!

LOL!

"Joe W. is now a Major UFO Witness!

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bruce maccabee" <brumac@c...>
>To: "Joe W" <Joe73505@h...>
>Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:11 PM
>Subject: Sighting posted on web site
>
>
>I have now posted my discussion and analysis of your sighitng on my web
>site.
>http://brumac.8k.com.
>Scroll down a bit. it is the first sighting presented (triangle).
>I have not "formally" announced this yet, so if you have any problems with
>it or
>find some error, please let me know.
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>Note:  Actual link to analysis is
>http://brumac.8k.com/LawtonTriangle/LawtonTriangle.html
>
>
>"What could this have been?  It certainly doesn't seem to be any military
>device or any type of
>object normally in the sky.  Internally lighted blimps seem like very
>strange objects at night,
>but they have a distinctive shape.  (There was a rash of blimp sightings and
>videos back in the
>early 1990's, so we have video "data" on the types of images they
>make...nothing like this.)
>Hence, unless someone has a better idea, I would have to classify this as a
>True UFO (TRUFO),
>which might be some sort of Alien Flying Craft (AFC) (or two such craft?)" -
>Bruce Maccabee
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl_w@s...>
Date: Sat Apr 13, 2002 9:50pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Sighting posted on web site

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:30pm
Subject: Fw: [TheHickmanReport] TV appearance

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:32pm
Subject: Fw: Photo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hickman" <jhickman1@p...>
To: "'Joe W'" <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: Photo


> Hi Joe!,
> 
> I read Dr. Maccabee's report, wow! Looks like you captured a "True UFO",
> Congratulations. I am thinking about submitting the case for publication
> in MUFON's UFO Journal, I don't usually do this but, I feel this is an
> important case. I will make sure you get a copy of it when published,
> and of course your name will be kept private.
> 
> Take Care!
> 
> Jim
> 
> Jim Hickman
> MUFON Research Specialist for Media Operations
> WWW.Mufon.Com
> WWW.TheHickmanReport.Com
> 
>

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 0:03am
Subject: Sighting Report, Apr 14

Hey "Joe"-  check this out!


From the UFO Updates List:

Background:  There were a couple List Members complaining that 
the only UFO cases considered "important enough" to discuss at 
length were hackneyed old cases like Roswell, Lakenhurst, Alien 
Autopsy, etc.  The complainants went on to wonder why recent 
sightings do not get the same respect.  

This was Bruce Maccabee's response... 
 
>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@c...>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@v...>
>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:10:56 -0400
>Subject: New Triangle Photo Case
>
>Dear Listers:
>
>There have been recent discourses on the present status or 'fate'
>of ufology, like, why are people still discussing old cases, and
>aren't there any new ones worth haggling over, etc.
>
>Well, time marches on.
>
>Pelican guano may be covering old cases, but not yet the new
>ones. So, before the excrement hits the rotating blades, check
>out the newest night time photo of a triangle... and a "car"....
>that passed through the sky of Lawton, OK. They say Oklahoma is
>OK... and so, it appears, is this sighting.
>
>What do you think? (You are, therefore you think.... I
>think....)

>UFO UpDates Archives are available at
>The Virtually Strange Network:
>
>http://www.virtuallystrange.net/

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 0:07am
Subject: Re: Fw: Photo

Wow!  

What are your plans for for the next "sighting"?


>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jim Hickman" <jhickman1@p...>
>To: "'Joe W'" <joe73505@h...>
>Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:55 PM
>Subject: Photo
>
>
>> Hi Joe!,
>> 
>> I read Dr. Maccabee's report, wow! Looks like you captured a "True UFO",
>> Congratulations. I am thinking about submitting the case for publication
>> in MUFON's UFO Journal, I don't usually do this but, I feel this is an
>> important case. I will make sure you get a copy of it when published,
>> and of course your name will be kept private.
>> 
>> Take Care!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> Jim Hickman
>> MUFON Research Specialist for Media Operations
>> WWW.Mufon.Com
>> WWW.TheHickmanReport.Com
>>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:51am
Subject: Re: Fw: Photo

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:56am
Subject: Re: Sighting Report, Apr 14

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:00am
Subject: Fw: Aliens Among Us

Must have pissed this kook off pretty good!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lue" <peter_lue@h...>
To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Aliens Among Us


> What do you mean by that?  Are you trying to denigrate my argument by
> implying that I am drunk or was that some sort of threat?  By that I mean,
> you are implying I would have to be out of my senses for pointing out some
> serious flaws in alien pop culture?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Aliens Among Us
>
>
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:50:03 -0400, "Ana Liza Lue"
> > <peter.lue@s...> wrote:
> >
> > >When I program my neural net kind of like the one in Terminator or The
> > >Matrix, I am going to hide right here o this plant so all of you won't
be
> > >able to see me.  I should be safe from the aliens too.  I might even
send
> my
> > >children on field trips to visit the uncivilized and very dull hoards
> that
> > >still dwell out in the open from time to time.  And when that computer
> > >figures out how to go back in time like Einstein postulated (with
vector
> > >analysis of something that is not a true vector; yeah right!!!) and
> figures
> > >out how to fold space, I might just visit those fools on earth
> > >10,000,000,000 years in the future who still haven't figured it out
just
> > >yet.  Go back to school if you believe in God or aliens.  Take
cognitive
> > >science, or artificial intelligence and a bunch of physics courses.  If
> you
> > >can't handle the truth, then the system obviously works.  If you are
not
> > >afraid of the truth, then maybe you have it all figured out.  But, I
have
> a
> > >question?  If I can watch a movie like Terminator, The Matrix or
> > >Bicentennial Man, why can't I watch or read anything intelligent about
> > >Aliens.
> >
> > Had a big sale on at your local liquor store did they?
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:08pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Photo

>I don't know.  Maybe do the old "balloon and fishing bobber" trick again? ;-)
>
>http://pages.prodigy.net/thr-ok/lost_lake_encounter.htm
>
>Those are some of my earlier "sightings". ;-)


Are all three yours?  I recognize your signature on the third 
report, but I didn't know you were active back in 1980.

Bruce

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:02am
Subject: Re: Fw: Photo

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:03am
Subject: Fw: Radio Interview

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Hickman Report" <thehickmanreport@p...>
To: <thehickmanreport@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Radio Interview


> I will be interviewed on the "Wake Up USA" show with host Adam Clark
> this next Wednesday night April 17th. at 9:00 PM Eastern time...
> 
> Our topic will be "The Lawton Triangle Case"
> http://brumac.8k.com/LawtonTriangle/LawtonTriangle.html
> 
> The show is done live and it's on the 'net at:
> http://wakeupusa.netfirms.com/ so, please listen in.
> 
> Take Care!
> 
> 
> Jim Hickman
> MUFON Research Specialist for Media Operations
> WWW.Mufon.Com
> WWW.TheHickmanReport.Com
> 
> 
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:12am
Subject: Re: Fw: Photo