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| 26 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:58am
Subject: Re: Fw: The Debunkers have a secret club at yahoo.com!
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Reply on the way in a few.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lewis" <10breakalpha@h...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Fw: The Debunkers have a secret club at
yahoo.com!
> Okay, the Shelly post just hit my newsreader, and I responded to it like I
> would any woo-woo who has posted a similar story--with a smal slap at the
> end. Let's see if it gets the ball rolling...
>
> John
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| 27 |
From: Robert ASF. <ra_forti@a...>
Date: Wed Nov 14, 2001 9:46am
Subject: Re: Fw: The Debunkers have a secret club at yahoo.com!
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Carl Wilson wrote:
snip
> > > If Spaz only knew that "Shelly" was a 6'1", 210 pound retired Army
> Sergeant.
> >
> > ahhh i would not tell him that he may try even harder to get to
> > know her...
>
> Now you're scaring me Robert! ;-)
Be afraid, very afraid...
snip
> > Has any one noticed that spaz has decided to attack my rule of
> > thumb? Spaz is quoting Condon saying 15% is unknown??? Any one have a clue
> > where he is getting that from?
>
> Knowing Spaz, he's just pulling it out of thin air.
He has posted some 6 articles on condon... i will get to them
demain and debunk them. I am sure he is merely reposting old stuff...
Just Thought I Should Mention It
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| 28 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:26am
Subject: Shelly_J
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This sock puppet isn't working out so hot. (Hey! It's my first sock puppet,
OK? ;-)
Any hints or suggestions, or just let it die?
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| 29 |
From: Robert ASF. <ra_forti@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:48pm
Subject: Re: Shelly_J
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Carl Wilson wrote:
> This sock puppet isn't working out so hot. (Hey! It's my first sock puppet,
> OK? ;-)
>
> Any hints or suggestions, or just let it die?
ahhh let it die...
Just Thought I Should Mention It
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| 30 |
From: John Lewis <10breakalpha@h...>
Date: Sun Nov 18, 2001 4:56am
Subject: Re: Shelly_J
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Gotta go with Robert here--let Shelly die. Even my best stuff didn't get
much of a rise from the saucer crowd, and I was really trying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@a...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:26 AM
Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Shelly_J
> This sock puppet isn't working out so hot. (Hey! It's my first sock
puppet,
> OK? ;-)
>
> Any hints or suggestions, or just let it die?
>
>
>
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| 31 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 18, 2001 4:59am
Subject: Re: Shelly_J
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Consider her dead and buried.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lewis" <10breakalpha@h...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Shelly_J
> Gotta go with Robert here--let Shelly die. Even my best stuff didn't get
> much of a rise from the saucer crowd, and I was really trying.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@a...>
> To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:26 AM
> Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Shelly_J
>
>
> > This sock puppet isn't working out so hot. (Hey! It's my first sock
> puppet,
> > OK? ;-)
> >
> > Any hints or suggestions, or just let it die?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| 32 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 5:20am
Subject: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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The following is from Ugly Bob:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ugly Bob" <ugly_bob42@h...>
To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@a...>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: What can a kook do, anyway?
> Hi Carl,
>
> I found something curious concerning our friend Ben Hogan.
> I did a whois look-up on his IP (63.201.227.98) and got this:
>
> Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> US
>
> Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
>
> Coordinator:
> Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN) ip-admin@P...
> 888-212-5411
>
> Record last updated on 26-Jan-2000.
> Database last updated on 2-Dec-2001 19:54:36 EDT.
> ___________________________________________________
>
> Then I searched the web and found this:
>
> http://dmoz.org/profiles/dlovato.html
>
>
> This is by no means conclusive but I just _had_ to tell
> someone. The part that caught my attention was the
> "hunting, fishing or flying private planes" part in the last
> sentence.
>
> -Ugly Bob
>
> P.S. I just love your Hogan "spoofing." Especially the
> e-mail address.
>
>
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| 33 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 5:48am
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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I think this info might be useful to ratchet up the paranoia level a bit.
What say you?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ugly Bob" <ugly_bob42@h...>
> To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@a...>
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: What can a kook do, anyway?
>
>
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > I found something curious concerning our friend Ben Hogan.
> > I did a whois look-up on his IP (63.201.227.98) and got this:
> >
> > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > US
> >
> > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> >
> > Coordinator:
> > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN) ip-admin@P...
> > 888-212-5411
> >
> > Record last updated on 26-Jan-2000.
> > Database last updated on 2-Dec-2001 19:54:36 EDT.
> > ___________________________________________________
> >
> > Then I searched the web and found this:
> >
> > http://dmoz.org/profiles/dlovato.html
> >
> >
> > This is by no means conclusive but I just _had_ to tell
> > someone. The part that caught my attention was the
> > "hunting, fishing or flying private planes" part in the last
> > sentence.
> >
> > -Ugly Bob
> >
> > P.S. I just love your Hogan "spoofing." Especially the
> > e-mail address.
> >
> >
>
>
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| 34 |
From: Robert ASF <ra_forti@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 7:12am
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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Just Thought I Should Mention It
>From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
>Reply-To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
>Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:48:29 -0600
>
>
>I think this info might be useful to ratchet up the paranoia level a bit.
>What say you?
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ugly Bob" <ugly_bob42@h...>
> > To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@a...>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: What can a kook do, anyway?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Carl,
> > >
> > > I found something curious concerning our friend Ben Hogan.
> > > I did a whois look-up on his IP (63.201.227.98) and got this:
> > >
> > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > US
> > >
> > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > >
> > > Coordinator:
> > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN) ip-admin@P...
> > > 888-212-5411
> > >
> > > Record last updated on 26-Jan-2000.
> > > Database last updated on 2-Dec-2001 19:54:36 EDT.
> > > ___________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Then I searched the web and found this:
> > >
> > > http://dmoz.org/profiles/dlovato.html
> > >
> > >
> > > This is by no means conclusive but I just _had_ to tell
> > > someone. The part that caught my attention was the
> > > "hunting, fishing or flying private planes" part in the last
> > > sentence.
> > >
> > > -Ugly Bob
> > >
> > > P.S. I just love your Hogan "spoofing." Especially the
> > > e-mail address.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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| 35 |
From: Robert ASF <ra_forti@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 7:14am
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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The question must be what to do with this...?
Just Thought I Should Mention It
> > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > US
> > >
> > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > >
> > > Coordinator:
> > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN) ip-admin@P...
> > > 888-212-5411
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| 36 |
From: Michael Davis <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 11:10am
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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Robert ASF wrote:
> The question must be what to do with this...?
I think on my next reply to Ben I will just casually call
him Darryl and see what happens. I'm hoping he will go
ballistic. Maybe all of us who reply to him should try it?
On a somewhat related issue, while reading a FAQ on another
net kook, I found a reference to Frager/Wholeflaffer's real
name. It may be Jerry Kolnick. The FAQ is at:
http://www.wilhelp.com/brad/
A quick web search on that name produces some references to
a Jerry Kolnick in Portland, OR. Frager/Wholeflaffer has
posted via Portland area ISPs over the years. Food for
thought.
Michael Davis
>
>
> Just Thought I Should Mention It
>
> > > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > > US
> > > >
> > > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > > >
> > > > Coordinator:
> > > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN)
> ip-admin@P...
> > > > 888-212-5411
>
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| 37 |
From: Bruce Hutchinson <bhutch@g...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 3:15pm
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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Whoa!
The IP number is part of a range of 8 numbers- I think these posts
are coming through Aladdin Systems. Darryl happens to be the
admin contact.
My guess is that our Ben Hogan, is an employee of Aladdin- not
Darryl.
If you need to drop a hint, ask him about his magic carpet.
Bruce
> I think on my next reply to Ben I will just casually call
> him Darryl and see what happens. I'm hoping he will go
> ballistic. Maybe all of us who reply to him should try it?
>
> On a somewhat related issue, while reading a FAQ on another
> net kook, I found a reference to Frager/Wholeflaffer's real
> name. It may be Jerry Kolnick. The FAQ is at:
> http://www.wilhelp.com/brad/
>
> A quick web search on that name produces some references to
> a Jerry Kolnick in Portland, OR. Frager/Wholeflaffer has
> posted via Portland area ISPs over the years. Food for
> thought.
>
> Michael Davis
>
> >
> >
> > Just Thought I Should Mention It
> >
> > > > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > > > US
> > > > >
> > > > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > > > >
> > > > > Coordinator:
> > > > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN)
> > ip-admin@P...
> > > > > 888-212-5411
> >
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| 38 |
From: Michael Davis <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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Bruce Hutchinson wrote:
>
> Whoa!
>
> The IP number is part of a range of 8 numbers- I think these posts
> are coming through Aladdin Systems. Darryl happens to be the
> admin contact.
>
> My guess is that our Ben Hogan, is an employee of Aladdin- not
> Darryl.
You could be right. I doubt old Bennie is bright enough to be an
admin.
> If you need to drop a hint, ask him about his magic carpet.
I'll rethink my strategy.
--
Michael Davis
>
>
>
> > I think on my next reply to Ben I will just casually call
> > him Darryl and see what happens. I'm hoping he will go
> > ballistic. Maybe all of us who reply to him should try it?
> >
> > On a somewhat related issue, while reading a FAQ on another
> > net kook, I found a reference to Frager/Wholeflaffer's real
> > name. It may be Jerry Kolnick. The FAQ is at:
> > http://www.wilhelp.com/brad/
> >
> > A quick web search on that name produces some references to
> > a Jerry Kolnick in Portland, OR. Frager/Wholeflaffer has
> > posted via Portland area ISPs over the years. Food for
> > thought.
> >
> > Michael Davis
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just Thought I Should Mention It
> > >
> > > > > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > > > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > > > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > > > > US
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > > > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coordinator:
> > > > > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN)
> > > ip-admin@P...
> > > > > > 888-212-5411
> > >
>
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| 39 |
From: Carl Wilson <carl@a...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: Re: Fw: What can a kook do, anyway?
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But remember the info that Ugly Bob found on Darryl Lovato at
http://dmoz.org/profiles/dlovato.html
"Darryl is a co-founder and VP/Cheif Technical Officer of Aladdin Systems,
Inc, makers of the StuffIt compression line. When he is not working on new
compression algorithms or designing new internet utilities, he can be found
spending time with his family, hunting, fishing or flying private planes"
Remember how Ben said he was a pilot? That and his email address is
bearhunterman@h... Sounds like Ben and Darryl are one and the same.
>
> Whoa!
>
> The IP number is part of a range of 8 numbers- I think these posts
> are coming through Aladdin Systems. Darryl happens to be the
> admin contact.
>
> My guess is that our Ben Hogan, is an employee of Aladdin- not
> Darryl.
>
> If you need to drop a hint, ask him about his magic carpet.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> > I think on my next reply to Ben I will just casually call
> > him Darryl and see what happens. I'm hoping he will go
> > ballistic. Maybe all of us who reply to him should try it?
> >
> > On a somewhat related issue, while reading a FAQ on another
> > net kook, I found a reference to Frager/Wholeflaffer's real
> > name. It may be Jerry Kolnick. The FAQ is at:
> > http://www.wilhelp.com/brad/
> >
> > A quick web search on that name produces some references to
> > a Jerry Kolnick in Portland, OR. Frager/Wholeflaffer has
> > posted via Portland area ISPs over the years. Food for
> > thought.
> >
> > Michael Davis
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just Thought I Should Mention It
> > >
> > > > > > Darryl Lovato (NETBLK-SBCIS-100125-164959)
> > > > > > 827 Loma Prieta Drive
> > > > > > Rio Del Mar, CA 95003
> > > > > > US
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Netname: SBCIS-100125-164959
> > > > > > Netblock: 63.201.227.96 - 63.201.227.103
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coordinator:
> > > > > > Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN)
> > > ip-admin@P...
> > > > > > 888-212-5411
> > >
>
>
>
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| 40 |
From: Ugly Bob <ugly_bob42@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2001 6:55am
Subject: password
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Hi guys,
This is just peachy. I join AAR_Skeptics by clicking on the URL
provided in the e-mail. Great. So "go here," it says and I go there.
Bam, I'm there. So, how do I see the goddamn messages? Hmm,
I know, I'll sign in. I click on the "sigh in" gadget and it prompts me
for an ID and password. Password? What the fu... Nobody said
anything about a password. Who set this thing up, anyway? So, I
guess I'm a member but security is so tight that I'm not allowed to
know my ID and password. That reminds me of the story of the
paranoid security guards that invite people to their parties only to
deny them admittance. I'd appreciate it if someone would drop me
a line and tell me how stupid I am. Thanks.
-Ugly Bob
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