From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Mon Jul 1, 2002 5:55pm
Subject: Re: decent weekend

>From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
>
>I have an idea for pRicky. I haven't decided if I'm going to do it or not,

<snip>

Well, I guess that idea is shot.  pRicky is claiming that his old "shantar" 
posts were bait.  He could say that my idea was a copy of his, and I'm not 
gooing to allow him to have such ammo.   Oh well,  I'm sure that I'll 
eventually think of something funny to do.

Jat

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From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Mon Jul 1, 2002 6:41pm
Subject: Re: decent weekend

Ricky is trying his best to spin doctor his old archived material. Carl has
said it best when he pointed out that he would have had to be posting for
his benefit three years before he ever arrived in AAR.

I think that's the theme hammer on; the more he protests that he is baiting,
the more people will see through the claim to the spin doctoring attempt.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] decent weekend


> >From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
> >
> >I have an idea for pRicky. I haven't decided if I'm going to do it or
not,
>
> <snip>
>
> Well, I guess that idea is shot.  pRicky is claiming that his old
"shantar"
> posts were bait.  He could say that my idea was a copy of his, and I'm not
> gooing to allow him to have such ammo.   Oh well,  I'm sure that I'll
> eventually think of something funny to do.
>
> Jat
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From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Tue Jul 2, 2002 9:44pm
Subject: Re: decent weekend

>From: "Diamondmaster1" <diamondmaster1@a...>

>Ricky is trying his best to spin doctor his old archived material. Carl has
>said it best when he pointed out that he would have had to be posting for
>his benefit three years before he ever arrived in AAR.
>
>I think that's the theme hammer on; the more he protests that he is 
>baiting,
>the more people will see through the claim to the spin doctoring attempt.
>John

I think you are correct.  I haven't seen anyone jumping to his defense or 
agreeing with him.
Jay
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] decent weekend
>
>
> > >From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
> > >
> > >I have an idea for pRicky. I haven't decided if I'm going to do it or
>not,
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Well, I guess that idea is shot.  pRicky is claiming that his old
>"shantar"
> > posts were bait.  He could say that my idea was a copy of his, and I'm 
>not
> > gooing to allow him to have such ammo.   Oh well,  I'm sure that I'll
> > eventually think of something funny to do.
> >
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From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 5:35am
Subject: Fw: Kook Watch

This is for you Mike!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Francois Tremblay" <mdipres@s...>
To: <webmaster@k...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: Kook Watch


> Hello. I just wanted to know if I could use your article "What is a Kook?"
> on my Insolitology web site, crediting you of course. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Francois Tremblay  mdipres@s...
> Columnist for Suite 101 http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/atheism
> Columnist for The Liberator http://www.liberator.net/
> www.insolitology.com
> Webmaster, libertarianthought.com, footballkills.org
>
> This message was made with recycled electrons.
>
>
>

From: Michael Davis  <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 2:17pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Kook Watch

Carl Wilson wrote:

>  This is for you Mike!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Francois Tremblay" <mdipres@s...>
> To: <webmaster@k...>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:24 PM
> Subject: Kook Watch
>
>
> > Hello. I just wanted to know if I could use your article
> "What is a Kook?"
> > on my Insolitology web site, crediting you of course.
> Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Francois Tremblay  mdipres@s...
> > Columnist for Suite 101
> http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/atheism
> > Columnist for The Liberator http://www.liberator.net/
> > www.insolitology.com
> > Webmaster, libertarianthought.com, footballkills.org
> >
> > This message was made with recycled electrons.

Cool! Tell them it is ok with me. They seem like nice
people.

--
Michael Davis

From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Mon Jul 8, 2002 0:35pm
Subject: Wolfe rides again!

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Mon Jul 8, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: Re: Wolfe rides again!

From: Michael Davis  <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Mon Jul 8, 2002 11:16pm
Subject: Re: Wolfe rides again!

Diamondmaster1 wrote:

> Now's the time to take the Wolfe-thing down another peg;
> his latest series of posts are an utter waste of
> bandwidth, consisting of nothing but "HTH" top-posted over
> another's complete posting. The Wolfe-thing has completely
> lost it...can't even come up with a semblance of a
> sentence now. I have a vision of him buffing the floors at
> Pitt, mumbling all the while "HTH..HTH..HTH".

Ha. That gives me an idea. I think it is time to fire up
photoshop again. Check alt.binaries.ufo.files.

--
Michael Davis

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:20am
Subject: Fw: zetatalk

Hey Mike!  It looks like another one of Nutty Nancy's followers found your
web page!


----- Original Message -----
From: "m o" <lupus33@h...>
To: <webmaster@k...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:13 PM
Subject: zetatalk


> For the person who uses your site to slander Nancy Lieder
>
> Dear Coward,
>
> Thankyou for your insightful webpage on Nancy Lieder. Your response to the
> thousands of pages of information on Lieder's site, the sci.astro debates
> and live mIRC sessions is laughable; a single page of shit-slinging.
Perhaps
> the only way you got your way when you were two years old was to defecate
> into your hand and throw it at the walls? The first response of snot-nosed
> toddlers like yourself to information they disagree with is to throw a
> tantrum, complete with feet-stamping and nastiness. After all, it's hard
to
> use logic to progress your cause when you haven't the capacity for it. I
> have to wonder, though, whether your gutless webpage regarding Lieder was
> drawn up because you are a whore for the Bush/Cheney crowd and NASA/JPL,
> bending over when they tell you to. Did your double-digit IQ president
> require that colonoscopy from your ass-licking?
>
> Don't go away angry, just go away, and scuttle back under the rock you
came
> from on your yellow, scaly little belly.
>
> Oh, and don't bother responding to this email, as I delete mail from
> cowards, liars, traitors and misanthropes.
>
> Michael Davidson.
>
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From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:54am
Subject: Re: Fw: zetatalk

Scary to think that she has someone who sounds so rational on the surface
out there kooking for the cause.

Of course, that's the problem with the Doomsday FTB:  nothing can dissuade
him from the TRVE FAITH--not reason, not logic, not irrefutable evidence. We
can only hope that this teen grows up and learns...before Nutty Nancy's
group pulls a Heaven's Gate.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Fw: zetatalk


>
> Hey Mike!  It looks like another one of Nutty Nancy's followers found your
> web page!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m o" <lupus33@h...>
> To: <webmaster@k...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:13 PM
> Subject: zetatalk
>
>
> > For the person who uses your site to slander Nancy Lieder
> >
> > Dear Coward,
> >
> > Thankyou for your insightful webpage on Nancy Lieder. Your response to
the
> > thousands of pages of information on Lieder's site, the sci.astro
debates
> > and live mIRC sessions is laughable; a single page of shit-slinging.
> Perhaps
> > the only way you got your way when you were two years old was to
defecate
> > into your hand and throw it at the walls? The first response of
snot-nosed
> > toddlers like yourself to information they disagree with is to throw a
> > tantrum, complete with feet-stamping and nastiness. After all, it's hard
> to
> > use logic to progress your cause when you haven't the capacity for it. I
> > have to wonder, though, whether your gutless webpage regarding Lieder
was
> > drawn up because you are a whore for the Bush/Cheney crowd and NASA/JPL,
> > bending over when they tell you to. Did your double-digit IQ president
> > require that colonoscopy from your ass-licking?
> >
> > Don't go away angry, just go away, and scuttle back under the rock you
> came
> > from on your yellow, scaly little belly.
> >
> > Oh, and don't bother responding to this email, as I delete mail from
> > cowards, liars, traitors and misanthropes.
> >
> > Michael Davidson.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: Robert ASF.  <ra_forti@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Fw: zetatalk

Yes but he did not tell us how he really felt...

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Carl Wilson wrote:

> Hey Mike!  It looks like another one of Nutty Nancy's followers found your
> web page!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m o" <lupus33@h...>
> To: <webmaster@k...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:13 PM
> Subject: zetatalk
>
>
> > For the person who uses your site to slander Nancy Lieder
> >
> > Dear Coward,
> >
> > Thankyou for your insightful webpage on Nancy Lieder. Your response to the
> > thousands of pages of information on Lieder's site, the sci.astro debates
> > and live mIRC sessions is laughable; a single page of shit-slinging.
> Perhaps
> > the only way you got your way when you were two years old was to defecate
> > into your hand and throw it at the walls? The first response of snot-nosed
> > toddlers like yourself to information they disagree with is to throw a
> > tantrum, complete with feet-stamping and nastiness. After all, it's hard
> to
> > use logic to progress your cause when you haven't the capacity for it. I
> > have to wonder, though, whether your gutless webpage regarding Lieder was
> > drawn up because you are a whore for the Bush/Cheney crowd and NASA/JPL,
> > bending over when they tell you to. Did your double-digit IQ president
> > require that colonoscopy from your ass-licking?
> >
> > Don't go away angry, just go away, and scuttle back under the rock you
> came
> > from on your yellow, scaly little belly.
> >
> > Oh, and don't bother responding to this email, as I delete mail from
> > cowards, liars, traitors and misanthropes.
> >
> > Michael Davidson.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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		Just Thought I Should Mention It

From: Robert ASF.  <ra_forti@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:51pm
Subject: Re: Fw: zetatalk

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Diamondmaster1 wrote:

> Scary to think that she has someone who sounds so rational on the surface
> out there kooking for the cause.

	That is the type cults want. So they do not seem like cults to new
recruits...

> Of course, that's the problem with the Doomsday FTB:  nothing can dissuade
> him from the TRVE FAITH--not reason, not logic, not irrefutable evidence. We
> can only hope that this teen grows up and learns...before Nutty Nancy's
> group pulls a Heaven's Gate.

	Going back to just before i got to usenet, Heaven Gate's people
were on the net. Some of the people i spoke to were emailling anyone from
that group they could find, pleading with them to not kill themselves.
Trying to get someone in authority to the compound before it was too late,
then when the news did hit make sure everyone got the message. The stories
back then were horrific, beyond what you could imagine as a rational
person. I still talk to one of those people now and then and the story
still haunts them. In his case survivors guilt, i imagine anyways...

	You know we get accused of so many things on usenet, being
bullies, making fun of people belief's, attacking the helpless...
hopeless? etc but if in just one case we wake one follower from take the
kool-aid then we have won. If just one person gives their belief just one
second thought then we have made a gain in this world.

	There are too many cults, Solar Temple, Heavens Gate and on and
on... Rael being another group, nuttty nancy being another, filled with
people who will or have walked down the Jim Jones path. They either are
technophobes ie no internet or for many new cults Internet friendly. We
cannot do much for the non tech but we can keep up a wall of opposition to
the tech'ers and their recruitment over the net. Aside from the fun of it,
giving flak to the latest kook claim, it undermines the strengh of cults.

		Just Thought I Should Mention It

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:12am
Subject: Re: Fw: zetatalk

Yeah, but it sure was an amusing rant though! ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert ASF." <ra_forti@a...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Fw: zetatalk


>
> Yes but he did not tell us how he really felt...
>
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Carl Wilson wrote:
>
> > Hey Mike!  It looks like another one of Nutty Nancy's followers found
your
> > web page!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m o" <lupus33@h...>
> > To: <webmaster@k...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:13 PM
> > Subject: zetatalk
> >
> >
> > > For the person who uses your site to slander Nancy Lieder
> > >
> > > Dear Coward,
> > >
> > > Thankyou for your insightful webpage on Nancy Lieder. Your response to
the
> > > thousands of pages of information on Lieder's site, the sci.astro
debates
> > > and live mIRC sessions is laughable; a single page of shit-slinging.
> > Perhaps
> > > the only way you got your way when you were two years old was to
defecate
> > > into your hand and throw it at the walls? The first response of
snot-nosed
> > > toddlers like yourself to information they disagree with is to throw a
> > > tantrum, complete with feet-stamping and nastiness. After all, it's
hard
> > to
> > > use logic to progress your cause when you haven't the capacity for it.
I
> > > have to wonder, though, whether your gutless webpage regarding Lieder
was
> > > drawn up because you are a whore for the Bush/Cheney crowd and
NASA/JPL,
> > > bending over when they tell you to. Did your double-digit IQ president
> > > require that colonoscopy from your ass-licking?
> > >
> > > Don't go away angry, just go away, and scuttle back under the rock you
> > came
> > > from on your yellow, scaly little belly.
> > >
> > > Oh, and don't bother responding to this email, as I delete mail from
> > > cowards, liars, traitors and misanthropes.
> > >
> > > Michael Davidson.
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Thu Jul 11, 2002 11:52pm
Subject: Wheee!

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Mon Jul 15, 2002 9:24am
Subject: (fwd) Re: Video of captured alien

Well Mike, it worked out just like you said it would!  He's even
threatening to sue you for saying that he's NOT gay!



On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:41:36 GMT, in alt.alien.research "Garry Bryan"
<garrybry@p...> wrote:


"Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...> wrote in message
news:3D301BD6.A97F3876@i...
> Garrrry "Clueless" Bryan wrote:
>
> > In alt.alien.visitors Harlow Campbell <harlowcampbell@h...>
wrote:
> > : "Lamia" <lamia@s...> wrote in message
news:c1c18851.0207111559.3b412d9c@p...
> > :>
> > :> > You suck dick.....Don't you ?
> >
> > :> Show us how mature your argument is...
> >
> > : I have a theory that ALL ufo "believers" are gay.
> > : They repress their queer desires and this leads to
> > : delusions that they have seen a ufo and/or been abducted.
> >
> > And your unambiguous evidence for this theory is where?
> >
> > : Case in point- Robert Wolf
> >
> > : For months I had been calling poor Robert a butt burglar,
> > : fanny pirate, etc.....Jof3r did some research and it turns
> > : out that not only is he a colon cowboy, he is also a cross-dresser !
> >
> > : The short list of queers includes such people as-
> > : Rick Boston
> > : Twonky
> > : RayBlow Richey
> > : Garrrry Bryan
> > : MantisBreath
> >
> > : There are plenty more....It's just too early for me to come up with a
> > : complete list....Check back later for more rump wranglers.
> >
> > Well, you are certainly incorrect about my sexual orientation as I am
happily
> > heterosexual and I have many women who will proclaim it.
>
> Yes, Harlow has gone too far this time. You are clearly NOT gay, and this
web site proves it.
> http://www.kook-watch.net/garry/

Great I have my own stalking troll. . .I must really be bothering you.
. .I
repeat, where is your unambiguous evidnece for the claim? Not just
your
obvious need to recruit new "playmates", but proof. . .I can
understand how
someone like yourself who has no close human relationships might not
be able
to understand long term male friendships, but this is a real low that
jsut
exposes your obsession with those who oppse your behavior. . .I am
sure one
or more of my friends would love to use this slander to sue you into
poverty
. . .good going, asshole lover. . .

Garry