From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Fri Aug 2, 2002 5:41am
Subject: Robert Wolfe claims to be a scientist!

From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 0:37am
Subject: Re: Robert Wolfe claims to be a scientist!

From: Robert ASF  <ra_forti@h...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 0:50am
Subject: Re: Copy Cat Sighting?

>From: "Bruce Hutchinson" <bhutch@g...>
>Reply-To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Copy Cat Sighting?
>Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:56:59 -500
>
>
>This "sighting" sounds suspiciously like our friend from Lawton.
>  This UFO is starting to get around.
>
>Perhaps exposure of this UFO might be just a tad premature.
>After all, copy-cat sightings can only enhance the legend of the
>Lawton Triangle.
>
>Bruce
>
>(From this week's edition of UFO ROUNDUP)
>LUMINOUS RED UFOs SIGHTED
>IN LONGUEUIL, QUEBEC
>
>        On Sunday, July 21, 2002, Antoine D., age 22, "was
>on my way, walking toward the Mondial-SAQ annual
>fireworks show" in Longueuil, Quebec, Canada (population
>127,977), just across the St. Lawrence River from
>Montreal.

In case any of you do not know, I live a few minutes from where this took 
place... the guy was watching one of the many light planes the circle the 
area for the fireworks competition. All summer long we have fireworks twice 
a week and lots of planes circle the area. Remove the myth making from this 
guys statement and you will see all he saw was a light in the sky that he 
was too stupid to realise was a plane...

Just Thought I Should Mention It


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From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 4:58am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4

I got this email today.

----- Original Message -----
From: "pikafireball" <pikafireball@t...>
To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4


> I hope the expert take the time to throw your butt in jail.
> but truth, if they thought those pictures where real. Were in the hell did
> they go to school?. lol
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
> Newsgroups:
>
alt.binaries.ufo.files,alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal.
> alt.paranormal.crop-circles
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:23 AM
> Subject: Re: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4
>
>
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:51:21 GMT, "John Baker" <jb@s...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Step 3:
> > >
> > >Choose a background. Anything will do, just don't make it too "busy."
Use
> > >the Lasso Tool to crop out your edited "UFO" image. Cut and paste it
onto
> > >your background. Use the Move Tool to position it where you want it.
> Merge
> > >the layers using the "flatten image" command. Use the Rubber Stamp Tool
> to
> > >blend your "UFO" in with the background. This part takes a bit of care
> and
> > >patience. Finally, use the Lasso Tool and the mask tool to isolate the
> > >"UFO." Apply a bit more gaussian blur to the "UFO" only, *not* to the
> > >background. Voila! There you have it. A "UFO" photograph guaranteed to
> give
> > >any saucer geek a woody. LOL!
> >
> > Actually, you don't even have to do that much work!
> >
> > Step 1:  Get a digital camera
> >
> > Step 2: Turn off all lights in the room where your PC is
> >
> > Step 3: Take a jiggly picture of the front of your PC/DSL Modem/DSL
> > Router with the flash turned off.
> >
> > Step 4:  Submit resulting picture to Saucer Head Web shite of your
> > choosing.
> > http://www.ufowisconsin.com/county/reports/r2002_0720_langlade.html
> >
> >
> > Or, if you want to be a bit more creative:
> >
> > Step 1:  Get a digital camera
> >
> > Step 2: Turn off all lights in the room where your PC is
> >
> > Step 3: Take a picture with the flash turned off of the front of your
> > PC/DSL Modem/DSL Router *and* the bottom of your optical mouse.
> > http://www.kook-watch.net/fakes/P3110004.JPG
> >
> > Step 4:  Submit to "UFO expert" for "analysis"
> > http://brumac.8k.com/LawtonTriangle/LawtonTriangle.html
> >
> > Step 5: Repeat same process a few months later using a different
> > alias.
> > http://www.kook-watch.net/fakes/ufo.jpg
> >
> > (Picture of "Lawton Triangle" with the flash turned on)
> > http://www.kook-watch.net/fakes/ufo2.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 7:32am
Subject: Re: Robert Wolfe claims to be a scientist!

From: Diamondmaster1  <diamondmaster1@a...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 11:45am
Subject: Re: Robert Wolfe claims to be a scientist!

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Sat Aug 3, 2002 6:09pm
Subject: Re: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4

>I got this email today.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "pikafireball" <pikafireball@t...>
>To: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:25 AM
>Subject: Re: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4
>
>
>> I hope the expert take the time to throw your butt in jail.
>> but truth, if they thought those pictures where real. Were in the hell did
>> they go to school?. lol
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
>> Newsgroups:
>>
>alt.binaries.ufo.files,alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal.
>> alt.paranormal.crop-circles
>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4

??????   this thread did not make my ISP, nor, it seems, Google.

Can someone repeat the posting here?

Bruce (aka" Censored in the Midwest")

P.S.  Whilst looking for the above thread, I noticed that many 
of the WebTv postings also did not make it to my ISP.  So there 
IS some good coming out of this blatent attempt by the Alien 
Konspiracy to censor my access to Skeptical postings.

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:32am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 1

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:40 PM
Subject: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 1


> Requirements:
> 
> 1. A good source file
> 
> 2. Adobe Photoshop or Jasc Paint Shop Pro
> 
> Start with a good source file. Ideally, it should be something that "sort
> of" looks like a UFO to begin with. This one comes from a newsgroups for
> amateur photographers, and is simply a parking lot light pole.
> 
> 
>

Attachment 43k (image/jpeg) 126-2680_web_shhh.jpg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:32am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 2

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:43 PM
Subject: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 2


> Step 1:
>
> Open the image in Photoshop (or Paint Shop Pro). Crop out the area you
want
> to use. In this case, it worked better to invert the image after cropping.
>
>
>

Attachment 47k (image/jpeg) UFO1.jpg

Attachment 49k (image/jpeg) UFO1-a.jpg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:32am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 3

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:45 PM
Subject: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 3


> Step 2:
>
> Use the Rubber Stamp Tool to edit the image. Apply a bit of gaussian blur.
>
>
>

Attachment 32k (image/jpeg) UFO1a.jpg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:33am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:51 PM
Subject: How to Fool a Saucerhead, Part 4


> Step 3:
>
> Choose a background. Anything will do, just don't make it too "busy." Use
> the Lasso Tool to crop out your edited "UFO" image. Cut and paste it onto
> your background. Use the Move Tool to position it where you want it. Merge
> the layers using the "flatten image" command. Use the Rubber Stamp Tool to
> blend your "UFO" in with the background. This part takes a bit of care and
> patience. Finally, use the Lasso Tool and the mask tool to isolate the
> "UFO." Apply a bit more gaussian blur to the "UFO" only, *not* to the
> background. Voila! There you have it. A "UFO" photograph guaranteed to
give
> any saucer geek a woody. LOL!
>
>
>

Attachment 247k (image/jpeg) UFO3a.jpg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:33am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Nobody, Part 5

Attachment 1k (image/jpeg) /tmp/nsmail3D46C0955B87E15.jpeg

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:33am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool a Nobody, Part 5

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: How to Fool a Nobody, Part 5


>
> "Robert Wolfe" <rob@w...> wrote in message
> news:3D46C095.496FBBBF@w...
> John Baker wrote:
> Step 3:
> Choose a background. Anything will do, just don't make it too "busy." Use
> the Lasso Tool to crop out your edited "UFO" image. Cut and paste it onto
> your background. Use the Move Tool to position it where you want it. Merge
> the layers using the "flatten image" command. Use the Rubber Stamp Tool to
> blend your "UFO" in with the background. This part takes a bit of care and
> patience. Finally, use the Lasso Tool and the mask tool to isolate the
> "UFO." Apply a bit more gaussian blur to the "UFO" only, *not* to the
> background. Voila! There you have it. A "UFO" photograph guaranteed to
give
> any saucer geek a woody. LOL!
>  [Image]
>
> Sorry, but that looks pretty fake to me:
>
> Why is the object pixelated around the edges in an interference pattern
that
> suggests a cropped higher resolution image pasted into a lower resolution
> image?
>
>
>
> Gee whiz, Bobby, maybe you're not as dumb as I thought you were. That's
the
> point, you see. *None* of them are very convincing when you look a little
> closer. Of course, I'd be willing to be that you'd have accepted it as
real
> if I hadn't said up front that it's a fake. <G>
>
> Oh, BTW, you have it ass-backwards. The source is low-res, taken with a
> digital camera. The background is hi-res.
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:33am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool absolutely Nobody, Part 5

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Wolfe" <rob@w...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: How to Fool absolutely Nobody, Part 5


> John Baker wrote:
>
> > "Robert Wolfe" <rob@w...> wrote in message
> > news:3D46C095.496FBBBF@w...
> > John Baker wrote:
> > Step 3:
> > Choose a background. Anything will do, just don't make it too "busy."
Use
> > the Lasso Tool to crop out your edited "UFO" image. Cut and paste it
onto
> > your background. Use the Move Tool to position it where you want it.
Merge
> > the layers using the "flatten image" command. Use the Rubber Stamp Tool
to
> > blend your "UFO" in with the background. This part takes a bit of care
and
> > patience. Finally, use the Lasso Tool and the mask tool to isolate the
> > "UFO." Apply a bit more gaussian blur to the "UFO" only, *not* to the
> > background. Voila! There you have it. A "UFO" photograph guaranteed to
give
> > any saucer geek a woody. LOL!
> >  [Image]
> >
> > Sorry, but that looks pretty fake to me:
> >
> > Why is the object pixelated around the edges in an interference pattern
that
> > suggests a cropped higher resolution image pasted into a lower
resolution
> > image?
> >
> > Gee whiz, Bobby, maybe you're not as dumb as I thought you were.
>
> Gee diddley, Ned Flanders, coming here to post your lame attempts at
nothing is
> pretty damn dumb.
>
> > That's the
> > point, you see. *None* of them are very convincing when you look a
little
> > closer.
>
> Then what are you "proving" besides you are either incapable or unwilling
to
> attempt a convincing FAKE to "prove" that ALL UFO photos are fakes?
>
> > Of course, I'd be willing to be that you'd have accepted it as real
> > if I hadn't said up front that it's a fake. <G>
>
> I don't care what you're *willing* to "be"... you are nothing but a troll.
>
> >
> >
> > Oh, BTW, you have it ass-backwards.
>
> Oh, BTW the interference pattern would be the same.  It would look like
shit.
>
> > The source is low-res, taken with a
> > digital camera. The background is hi-res.
>
> Isn't your very presence in this NG ass-backwards in and of itself?  HTH.
>
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:33am
Subject: Fw: How to Fool absolutely Nobody, Part 5

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jb@s...>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.ufo.files
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: How to Fool absolutely Nobody, Part 5


>
> "Roberta 'Mop Jockey' Wolfe" <rob@w...> wrote in message
> news:3D46D670.64058032@w...
> > >
> > > Gee whiz, Bobby, maybe you're not as dumb as I thought you were.
> >
> > Gee diddley, Ned Flanders, coming here to post your lame attempts at
> nothing is
> > pretty damn dumb.
>
> Did I strike a nerve, Bobby? Hit a little too close to home, maybe? :-) I
> wasn't attempting to do anything other than poke a little fun at the
overly
> credulous. Your humorless response is ample evidence of my success.
>
> >
> > > That's the
> > > point, you see. *None* of them are very convincing when you look a
> little
> > > closer.
> >
> > Then what are you "proving" besides you are either incapable or
unwilling
> to
> > attempt a convincing FAKE to "prove" that ALL UFO photos are fakes?
>
> I have yet to see one that isn't either an obvious fake or of such low
> quality that you can't honestly say what it actually is. Bad photos of
> unidentified lights or amorphous blobs don't cut it as evidence. If you
can
> show me even one unambiguous photo that you can prove is the genuine
> article, I might be willing to listen to what you have to say. Until then,
> you're just another credulous woo woo. BTW, that little diversion might
have
> taken me a whole 10 minutes from conception to finished "product." As I
> said, I was only poking a little light-hearted fun at the saucer geeks.
For
> one thing, I wouldn't have used that background image if I'd really been
> trying to fool anyone. For another, I'd have spent a good deal more time
on
> it. If I'd actually done a *serious* job and posted it as the real deal,
> you'd have bought it without question, and if you have the balls to be
> honest with yourself, you damn well know it. Given the level of credulity
> you generally demonstrate, I'm not so sure you wouldn't have bought this
one
> if I hadn't identified it up front as a simple fake.
>
> >
> > > Of course, I'd be willing to be that you'd have accepted it as real
> > > if I hadn't said up front that it's a fake. <G>
> >
> > I don't care what you're *willing* to "be"... you are nothing but a
troll.
>
> And I got you on the first cast, didn't I? That hook must really hurt. <G>
> BTW, criticizing typos is a sure sign you're shooting with blanks. But
then
> what else could we expect, since you obviously completely missed the point
> of the original post. It's a joke, son. Nothing more. Of course, I'm not
> surprised at the tone of your response. It's no more (or less) than I'd
> expect from someone with no detectable sense of humor.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, BTW, you have it ass-backwards.
> >
> > Oh, BTW the interference pattern would be the same.  It would look like
> shit.
> >
> > > The source is low-res, taken with a
> > > digital camera. The background is hi-res.
> >
> > Isn't your very presence in this NG ass-backwards in and of itself?
HTH.
>
> It's an unmoderated group. If you don't like it, plonk me.
> >
> >
>
>