From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:46am
Subject: lol...i got a letter from "Lisa Gardner"

she attached a pic of "her and her son." Pretty funny stuff.
Jay


----- Original Message -----
From: "jof3r" <jof3r@k...>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: fuck you all


>On or about Mon, 30 Sep 2002 05:27:25 GMT, it was decided that "Lisa
>Gardner" <lgardner112062@e...> typed:
>
> >for the deepest rape of my soul you have commited, for the enjoyment
> >of thousands.
>
>No problem.  In fact, we're gonna astrally gang-bang that new brat of
>yours.

Here you go. Here is our picture. You are on your honor. Will having
our picture make it any easier for you to assist this country in killing or
maiming us?

I would rather you did not astrally gang-bang my three month old, I love
him dearly and so do many other people. He is a little light in the world
and
I would very much like to see him grow up to be a larger light in the
world -
just as your mother probably wanted you to grow into something strong and
beautiful.

Why am I not listened to here? I think you all know what is going on. Why
am I not listened to?

I love my two sons more than anything. I want them and myselves to live.
But I am convinced that this country only wants me to shut up, Josh, and
that
they are willing to go pretty fucking far to do it.

Lisa



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From: Michael Davis  <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2002 10:58am
Subject: Going away for a while

Hi all,

It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
weeks.

In the past I have been declared dead a couple of times and have
claimed to be retiring from Usenet to explain my absences while on
vacation. This time I want to try something different (since I doubt
even the shit-stupid saucer heads will buy either excuse again). If
any of the kooks or woo-woos mentions or asks questions about the fact
that I am not around, just ignore it. You might want to even mention
me in your posts as if I were still here. Perhaps even post messages
that look like replies to something I posted that never showed up in
the NGs. That should really ratchet up the confusion and paranoia
levels among the kooks.

Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
web site is off line? 

-- 
Michael Davis

From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2002 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Going away for a while

>From: Michael Davis <mdavis19@i...>
>Reply-To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while
>Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:58:19 -0400
>
>Hi all,
>
>It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
>weeks.

Have a nice vacation, Mike.

<snip>

>Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
>web site is off line?

Maybe Carl "savaged" him, LOL.
>--
>Michael Davis




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From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2002 7:43pm
Subject: I'm out of here for a few days, too

Hey folks,
    Not going on a regular vacation, like Micheal, but I'm hading out for a 
couple days.  I'm an amateur storm chaser- going to go observe Hurricane 
Lili.

   The internet is so awesome; you can get radar imagery now that's only 6 
minutes old! And you can easily tie into the national doppler radar mosaic 
with a single click.  These days, a person with a laptop that has internet 
access can do what would have cost *many*
thousands of dollars (and govenement persmisssion or connections) a few 
years ago.

Isidore was a blast, Lili should be even better.

See you all in a couple days!
Jay

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From: Michael Davis  <mdavis19@i...>
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2002 10:05pm
Subject: Re: I'm out of here for a few days, too

Jof 3r wrote:

 > Hey folks,
 >     Not going on a regular vacation, like Micheal, but I'm hading out
 > for a
 > couple days.  I'm an amateur storm chaser- going to go observe Hurricane
 > Lili.
 >
 >    The internet is so awesome; you can get radar imagery now that's
 > only 6
 > minutes old! And you can easily tie into the national doppler radar
 > mosaic
 > with a single click.  These days, a person with a laptop that has
 > internet
 > access can do what would have cost *many*
 > thousands of dollars (and govenement persmisssion or connections) a few
 > years ago.
 >
 > Isidore was a blast, Lili should be even better.
 >
 > See you all in a couple days!
 > Jay

Yeah, I'm watching the storm too, but for very different reasons. I have
a flight connection in Houston tomorrow. I'm afraid they are going to
close the airport and cancel my flight. I'll be in airport hell!!

Have fun storm chasing but be safe. This is a bad-ass storm. It may be
another Andrew. Think of it as a 50 mile wide tornado. Don't get blown away.

Michael Davis

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Fri Oct 4, 2002 7:00am
Subject: Re: I'm out of here for a few days, too

I haven't been hanging around the newsgroup much these days either.  Not on
vacation, but spending more time out at night with the scope.  That, and
I've got folks from back home in PA coming out here for a visit at the end
of the month, so I've been pretty busy.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] I'm out of here for a few days, too


> Jof 3r wrote:
>
>  > Hey folks,
>  >     Not going on a regular vacation, like Micheal, but I'm hading out
>  > for a
>  > couple days.  I'm an amateur storm chaser- going to go observe
Hurricane
>  > Lili.
>  >
>  >    The internet is so awesome; you can get radar imagery now that's
>  > only 6
>  > minutes old! And you can easily tie into the national doppler radar
>  > mosaic
>  > with a single click.  These days, a person with a laptop that has
>  > internet
>  > access can do what would have cost *many*
>  > thousands of dollars (and govenement persmisssion or connections) a few
>  > years ago.
>  >
>  > Isidore was a blast, Lili should be even better.
>  >
>  > See you all in a couple days!
>  > Jay
>
> Yeah, I'm watching the storm too, but for very different reasons. I have
> a flight connection in Houston tomorrow. I'm afraid they are going to
> close the airport and cancel my flight. I'll be in airport hell!!
>
> Have fun storm chasing but be safe. This is a bad-ass storm. It may be
> another Andrew. Think of it as a 50 mile wide tornado. Don't get blown
away.
>
> Michael Davis

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Fri Oct 4, 2002 7:05am
Subject: Re: Going away for a while

Of course you realize that since I haven't posted much in the last week or
so, "J" is off chasing storms, and now you going on vacation is going to
"confirm" that "we" are all really "you" in the minds of the kooks. ;-)




----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:58 AM
Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while


> Hi all,
>
> It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
> weeks.
>
> In the past I have been declared dead a couple of times and have
> claimed to be retiring from Usenet to explain my absences while on
> vacation. This time I want to try something different (since I doubt
> even the shit-stupid saucer heads will buy either excuse again). If
> any of the kooks or woo-woos mentions or asks questions about the fact
> that I am not around, just ignore it. You might want to even mention
> me in your posts as if I were still here. Perhaps even post messages
> that look like replies to something I posted that never showed up in
> the NGs. That should really ratchet up the confusion and paranoia
> levels among the kooks.
>
> Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
> web site is off line?
>
> --
> Michael Davis
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> AAR_Skeptics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Fri Oct 4, 2002 7:15am
Subject: Re: Going away for a while

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while


> 
> >From: Michael Davis <mdavis19@i...>
> >Reply-To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
> >To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while
> >Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:58:19 -0400
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
> >weeks.
> 
> Have a nice vacation, Mike.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
> >web site is off line?
> 
> Maybe Carl "savaged" him, LOL.

ROFLMAO!

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Fri Oct 4, 2002 4:16pm
Subject: Dave Rudiak

(It's Roswell time.... Again!)

I don't know if any of you have been following this, but 
recently Dave Rudiak posted on his web site claims that Prof. 
Charles Moore not only fabricated his model of NYU Flight #4, 
but openly consorted with the dasterdly "debunkers" (...gasp!). 

Tim Printy has posted an excelent rebuttal that shows that not 
only is Rudi-yack flat out wrong in his calculations, but a 
complete ass as well.

I think that UFO updates is going to be rather interesting over 
the next few days, as most of the wrangling will take place 
there.  Be sure to check in now and then and enjoy the fun.

Daves site:
http://www.roswellproof.homestead.com/Flight4_Trajectory.html

Tim Printy's Rebuttal:
http://members.aol.com/tprinty2/rudiak.html

If you have not visted UFO Updates before, here is where to find 
it:
http://www.virtuallystrange.net


Bruce

P.S.  I hope Iris was not too much of a bust, Jay!  Were you 
able to get to the Eye?

From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Sat Oct 5, 2002 6:34am
Subject: Re: Going away for a while

>From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
>
>Of course you realize that since I haven't posted much in the last week or
>so, "J" is off chasing storms, and now you going on vacation is going to
>"confirm" that "we" are all really "you" in the minds of the kooks. ;-)

Haha! Great point, Carl!  I did post earlier today, when I got home.  But, I 
think maybe I'll stay quiet for a while, just to add fuel to their paranoid 
fires.
Jay
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
>To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:58 AM
>Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
> > weeks.
> >
> > In the past I have been declared dead a couple of times and have
> > claimed to be retiring from Usenet to explain my absences while on
> > vacation. This time I want to try something different (since I doubt
> > even the shit-stupid saucer heads will buy either excuse again). If
> > any of the kooks or woo-woos mentions or asks questions about the fact
> > that I am not around, just ignore it. You might want to even mention
> > me in your posts as if I were still here. Perhaps even post messages
> > that look like replies to something I posted that never showed up in
> > the NGs. That should really ratchet up the confusion and paranoia
> > levels among the kooks.
> >
> > Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
> > web site is off line?
> >
> > --
> > Michael Davis
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > AAR_Skeptics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




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From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Sat Oct 5, 2002 6:36am
Subject: Re: I'm out of here for a few days, too

>From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
>I haven't been hanging around the newsgroup much these days either.  Not on
>vacation, but spending more time out at night with the scope.  That, and
>I've got folks from back home in PA coming out here for a visit at the end
>of the month, so I've been pretty busy.

Wondered where you were.  You went quiet about the same time as Roberta. I 
thought about posting about it, claiming that you and s/he must be the same 
person, just to see what the woo woos would say. : )

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
>To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] I'm out of here for a few days, too
>
>
> > Jof 3r wrote:
> >
> >  > Hey folks,
> >  >     Not going on a regular vacation, like Micheal, but I'm hading out
> >  > for a
> >  > couple days.  I'm an amateur storm chaser- going to go observe
>Hurricane
> >  > Lili.
> >  >
> >  >    The internet is so awesome; you can get radar imagery now that's
> >  > only 6
> >  > minutes old! And you can easily tie into the national doppler radar
> >  > mosaic
> >  > with a single click.  These days, a person with a laptop that has
> >  > internet
> >  > access can do what would have cost *many*
> >  > thousands of dollars (and govenement persmisssion or connections) a 
>few
> >  > years ago.
> >  >
> >  > Isidore was a blast, Lili should be even better.
> >  >
> >  > See you all in a couple days!
> >  > Jay
> >
> > Yeah, I'm watching the storm too, but for very different reasons. I have
> > a flight connection in Houston tomorrow. I'm afraid they are going to
> > close the airport and cancel my flight. I'll be in airport hell!!
> >
> > Have fun storm chasing but be safe. This is a bad-ass storm. It may be
> > another Andrew. Think of it as a 50 mile wide tornado. Don't get blown
>away.
> >
> > Michael Davis
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>AAR_Skeptics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
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From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Sat Oct 5, 2002 6:39am
Subject: Re: I'm out of here for a few days, too

>From: Michael Davis <mdavis19@i...>
>Jof 3r wrote:
>
>  > Isidore was a blast, Lili should be even better.
>  > Jay
>
>Yeah, I'm watching the storm too, but for very different reasons. I have
>a flight connection in Houston tomorrow. I'm afraid they are going to
>close the airport and cancel my flight. I'll be in airport hell!!

Guess you made it OK  :)

>Michael Davis
>


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From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Sun Oct 6, 2002 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Going away for a while

Well, I've posted a couple of messages since then, just to make them wonder.

I'll be "disappearing" again at the end of the month.  Family from PA coming
out for a visit.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jof 3r" <gangprobeddad@h...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while


> >From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
> >
> >Of course you realize that since I haven't posted much in the last week
or
> >so, "J" is off chasing storms, and now you going on vacation is going to
> >"confirm" that "we" are all really "you" in the minds of the kooks. ;-)
>
> Haha! Great point, Carl!  I did post earlier today, when I got home.  But,
I
> think maybe I'll stay quiet for a while, just to add fuel to their
paranoid
> fires.
> Jay
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
> >To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:58 AM
> >Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Going away for a while
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It's time for my annual vacation. I'll be out of touch for a couple of
> > > weeks.
> > >
> > > In the past I have been declared dead a couple of times and have
> > > claimed to be retiring from Usenet to explain my absences while on
> > > vacation. This time I want to try something different (since I doubt
> > > even the shit-stupid saucer heads will buy either excuse again). If
> > > any of the kooks or woo-woos mentions or asks questions about the fact
> > > that I am not around, just ignore it. You might want to even mention
> > > me in your posts as if I were still here. Perhaps even post messages
> > > that look like replies to something I posted that never showed up in
> > > the NGs. That should really ratchet up the confusion and paranoia
> > > levels among the kooks.
> > >
> > > Speaking of confused and paranoid, anybody else notice that Roberta's
> > > web site is off line?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Davis
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > AAR_Skeptics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 3:56am
Subject: Fw: [TheHickmanReport] Worldwide UFO Fireball WAR protest.

From: Jof 3r  <gangprobeddad@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 14, 2002 0:26am
Subject: Re: Hey J

sure, I'll do it, Carl..no problem.  The only reason i didn't want him to 
see me IP adress was that it pissed him off. : )


>From: "Carl Wilson" <carl@k...>
>Reply-To: AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com
>To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [AAR_Skeptics] Hey J
>Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:47:06 -0500
>
>If you would, post a message to usenet if you don't mind.  I'd like to rub
>Bobbie's nose in the fact that your IP doesn't match mine or my daughters.
>If you'd rather not let your IP address out, I understand.
>
>




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