From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:01am
Subject: Re: http://www.thehickmanreport.com

I just sent out his "preliminary report" attached to an email to this group.

I kinda screwed up a minute ago.  A "UFO investigator" sent me the following
message:

----- Original Message -----
From: <MCHARMAN@p...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> I don't know what the problem is, I still cannot get
> to the image it goes to a dead link instead, Try
> sending it to Mike_Harman@r..., see if this
> will work. I'd like to post the image on my web site.
----- Original Message -----

Well, I resent the jpg file and then realized that I had sent it from my
carl_w@s... account instead of my fake Hotmail "JoeW" one!  Arrrgh!
But I think I covered myself by sending the following email from "JoeW"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
To: <Mike_Harman@r...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> I emailed a copy to a friend of mind, and had him email it to you through
a
> regular, non-Hotmail account.  Maybe sending it through Hotmail is causing
> the problem, so hopefully this helped.
>
> ----- Original Message -----

I hope he buys the explanation.

>
>
> > Hey!  Check it out!  My "UFOs" made it to the homepage of a kook site!
>
> I can't wait for Maccabee's analysis.  This ought to test his
> skills a bit...
>
> Meanwhile, not a word to anyone else!  Like Mike said, this is
> good enough to make a book jacket some day!
>
> Bruce

Agreed, but did you notice the guy in alt.binaries.ufo.files (Jeet) that
said:
">Looks kind of like the bottom of an infrared mouse...... Who
>know's ha? If anyone know's please tell.....

If he only knew how right he was!

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:04am
Subject: Re: Stirring up the kooks!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Davis" <mdavis19@i...>
To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Stirring up the kooks!


> Carl Wilson wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert ASF." <ra_forti@a...>
> > To: <AAR_Skeptics@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AAR_Skeptics] Stirring up the kooks!
> >
> > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Carl Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > > You might have noticed a picture uploaded to
> > alt.binaries.ufo.files with
> > the
> > > > subject of "Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> > Oklahoma  3/11/02"
> > > >
> > > > We'll, the strange objects are my optical mouse and
> > the LEDs on my
> > computer
> > > > and keyboard. :-)
> > >
> > > LED?
> >
> > Light Emitting Diodes  The little lights on keyboards,
> > etc.
> >
> > > > No one seemed to bite in the newsgroups, but I've got
> > them going in a
> > Yahoo
> > > > group called "The Hickman Report" at
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheHickmanReport/
> > >
> > > Your so mean... Now since this is your joke, may i make
> > a
> > > suggestion? Forget you ever made the photo. Let it
> > circle around the ufo
> > > circuit for a time. See just how many people buy into
> > it. If you are lucky
> > > it will become a cause for them to prove it is true.
> > People like Twonky
> > > will jump on the band wagon etc and soon they will be
> > yelling that of
> > > course it is a real UFO...
> >
> > That's the plan.  :-)  See how far it goes and see if they
> > even take the
> > time to try and determine that it's a fake.
>
> I predict that if you don't burst the bubble, it'll wind up
> on other web sites and maybe even a book cover eventually.

Web sites for sure.  Book covers are a distinct possibility.  In fact Jim
Hickman mentioned something about an upcoming book of his.  Maybe it will
appear on the cover of his book?

> >
> > > > I've been getting comments like "This is an
> > extraordinary photo" and "I
> > have
> > > > never seen anything quite like your photo, it is
> > remarkable"  Check it
> > out
> > > > if you want a few laughs!
> > >
> > > Yes it funny!
> >
> > I'll forward some of the emails I've been getting to this
> > group as well for
> > extra laughs. ;-)
>
> That should be good. I predict a distinct lack of skepticism
> in them.

I predict that your prediction will be correct.  ;-)

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:07am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hickman" <THEHICKMANREPORT@p...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> Thanks Joe! I saw a UFO near lawton about 15 years
> ago, too cool!
> 
> Would you mind filling out a sighting report for me?
> 
> We have a report form online at:
> http://ohiomufon.services4all.com/siteform.html
> 
> or you can fill out a paper form you can print out
> at: http://www.thehickmanreport.com/sighting.html and
> mail it to me at:
> 
> Jim Hickman
> MUFON Research Specialist
> PO Box 2154
> Elk City, OK 73644
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> To: <thehickmanreport@p...>
> Subject: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> Oklahoma  3/11/02
> 
> >I took the attached picture from my house on the
> west edge of Lawton just
> >minutes ago.  I was returning from some late night
> shopping at the local
> >Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance
> moving around the sky
> >rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I
> realized these objects were
> >moving in my direction so when I got home I ran
> inside and grabbed my
> >digital camera.
> >
> >When I ran back outside the objects were nearly
> overhead.  I snapped only
> >one picture before they sped out of sight.
> >
> >
> 
> 
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:07am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MCHARMAN@p...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> Could you please resend the UFO picture, I was unable
> to pull up the image from the link.
> 
> Mike Harman
> UFO-PI Private UFO Investigations:
> http://www.homestead.com/ufopi2/index.html
> http://ufopi.freehomepage.com/index.html
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> To: <thehickmanreport@p...>
> Subject: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> Oklahoma  3/11/02
> 
> >I took the attached picture from my house on the west
> edge of Lawton just
> >minutes ago.  I was returning from some late night
> shopping at the local
> >Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance
> moving around the sky
> >rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I
> realized these objects were
> >moving in my direction so when I got home I ran
> inside and grabbed my
> >digital camera.
> >
> >When I ran back outside the objects were nearly
> overhead.  I snapped only
> >one picture before they sped out of sight.
> >
> >
> 
> Mike Harman
> Arlington, Texas
> (817) 649-0537
> 
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:07am
Subject: Fw: sighting

----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Rife" <sarb2@w...>
To: <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: sighting


> Joe,
>
> Hi this is Art Rife in Broken Arrow. I'm the State Section Director in
this
> area,  for mufon, and would appreciate any info you could forward me,
> including the picture you were able to take. I just read you sighting
> report.
>
> Hope to here from you soon.My email is sarb2@a...
> phone 918 258 5791
>  Thank you very much
> Art & Sue
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:08am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message -----
From: "SheevA" <Sheeva@d...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> joe can u mail me privately the pic? Ive studied UFO and other phenomena
for
> over ten years. I maybe able to give you some answers.
>
> Rgrds
>
> Sheeva
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:08am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Hickman Report" <thehickmanreport@p...>
To: "'Joe W.'" <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> Hi Joe!
> 
> No I have never seen anything quite like your photo, it is remarkable. I
> have my photo expert Dr. Bruce Maccabee looking it over right now.
> Thanks for filling out the report. I would like to hear more about your
> sighting, in your own words, if you don't mind.
> 
> Back in 1983 I was north of Lawton near Mears when I saw a huge UFO fly
> right over my vehicle, I would have thought I was crazy except that
> there were other people with me.
> 
> I wrote about that experience in my upcoming book "The Alien Menace"...
> 
> Take Care!
> 
> Jim
> 
> Jim Hickman
> Author, "5000 years of UFO's"
> MUFON Research Specialist for Media Operations
> www.mufon.com
> www.TheHickmanReport.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W. [mailto:joe73505@h...]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Jim Hickman
> Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02
> 
> 
> I just filled out the online sighting report.  I hope you find it
> useful.  I never gave UFOs any thought until I saw these objects last
> night.  Have you ever seen anything like these objects before?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hickman" <THEHICKMANREPORT@p...>
> To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02
> 
> 
> > Thanks Joe! I saw a UFO near lawton about 15 years
> > ago, too cool!
> >
> > Would you mind filling out a sighting report for me?
> >
> > We have a report form online at:
> > http://ohiomufon.services4all.com/siteform.html
> >
> > or you can fill out a paper form you can print out
> > at: http://www.thehickmanreport.com/sighting.html and
> > mail it to me at:
> >
> > Jim Hickman
> > MUFON Research Specialist
> > PO Box 2154
> > Elk City, OK 73644
> >
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> > From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> > To: <thehickmanreport@p...>
> > Subject: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> > Oklahoma  3/11/02
> >
> > >I took the attached picture from my house on the
> > west edge of Lawton just
> > >minutes ago.  I was returning from some late night
> > shopping at the local
> > >Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance
> > moving around the sky
> > >rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I
> > realized these objects were
> > >moving in my direction so when I got home I ran
> > inside and grabbed my
> > >digital camera.
> > >
> > >When I ran back outside the objects were nearly
> > overhead.  I snapped only
> > >one picture before they sped out of sight.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:09am
Subject: Fw: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Burrafato" <lensman@s...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
Oklahoma 3/11/02


> The dogs were barking more than likely because of a high frequency sound
being
> emitted by the objects beyond the human auditory range. This is a well
known
> phenomena.  Not only will dogs react, but cats, birds, and farm animals as
> well.  If they show up again, you may be of interest to them.  I know
this,
> because it's happened to me on at least a half dozen ocassions, all with
other
> witnesses present at the time.  Good luck!
>
> "Joe W." wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kim Burrafato" <lensman@s...>
> > To: <TheHickmanReport@yahoogroups.com>; <joe73505@h...>
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> > Oklahoma 3/11/02
> >
> > > This is an extraordinary photo.  Was the movement in the photo due to
you
> > moving
> > > the camera, or the objects moving themselves?
> >
> > I think it was a bit of both.  It was nearly overhead at the time so I
was
> > probably a bit wobbly taking the picture.  The objects were moving but
not
> > very quicky at the time.  After they passed of the moved to the east
rather
> > rapidly and I didn't get another shot.  These objects didn't make any
noise
> > that I heard, but they sure had all the dogs barking at the time.
> >
> > > "Joe W." wrote:
> > >
> > > > I took a picture from my house on the west edge of Lawton just about
> > 1:30 AM
> > > > this morning.  I was returning from some late night shopping at the
> > local
> > > > Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance moving around the
sky
> > > > rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I realized these
objects
> > were
> > > > moving in my direction so when I got home I ran inside and grabbed
my
> > > > digital camera.
> > > >
> > > > When I ran back outside the objects were nearly overhead.  I snapped
> > only
> > > > one picture before they sped out of sight.
> > > >
> > > > Picture upload to the group photos area at
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheHickmanReport/
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups
> > > >
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > > thehickmanreport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > > --
> > > *************************************************
> > > A human being should be able to change a
> > > diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog,
> > > conn a ship, design a building, write a
> > > sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall,
> > > set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
> > > give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
> > > equations, analyze a new problem, pitch
> > > manure, program a computer, cook a tasty
> > > meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> > > Specialization is for insects.
> > >
> > > --Robert Heinlein
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > http://www.stardrive.org
> > > Memetic Engineering/Advanced Hyperspatial Physics
> > > **************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> *************************************************
> A human being should be able to change a
> diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog,
> conn a ship, design a building, write a
> sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall,
> set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
> equations, analyze a new problem, pitch
> manure, program a computer, cook a tasty
> meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects.
>
> --Robert Heinlein
> ------------------------------------------
> http://www.stardrive.org
> Memetic Engineering/Advanced Hyperspatial Physics
> **************************************************
>
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:08am
Subject: Fw: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Burrafato" <lensman@s...>
To: <TheHickmanReport@yahoogroups.com>; <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
Oklahoma 3/11/02


> This is an extraordinary photo.  Was the movement in the photo due to you
moving
> the camera, or the objects moving themselves?
>
> "Joe W." wrote:
>
> > I took a picture from my house on the west edge of Lawton just about
1:30 AM
> > this morning.  I was returning from some late night shopping at the
local
> > Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance moving around the sky
> > rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I realized these objects
were
> > moving in my direction so when I got home I ran inside and grabbed my
> > digital camera.
> >
> > When I ran back outside the objects were nearly overhead.  I snapped
only
> > one picture before they sped out of sight.
> >
> > Picture upload to the group photos area at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheHickmanReport/
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > thehickmanreport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> --
> *************************************************
> A human being should be able to change a
> diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog,
> conn a ship, design a building, write a
> sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall,
> set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
> equations, analyze a new problem, pitch
> manure, program a computer, cook a tasty
> meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects.
>
> --Robert Heinlein
> ------------------------------------------
> http://www.stardrive.org
> Memetic Engineering/Advanced Hyperspatial Physics
> **************************************************
>
>
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:10am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:09am
Subject: Fw: [TheHickmanReport] Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:10am
Subject: Fw: UFO Report

----- Original Message -----
From: <Gazppi@a...>
To: <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:10 PM
Subject: UFO Report


> Joe,
>
> The attachment did not come through. Would you send me a copy here at this
> e-mail address. Thank you
>
> George A. Zeiler
> Deputy International Director
> MUFON International
>

From: Carl Wilson  <carl@k...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:11am
Subject: Fw: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MCHARMAN@p...>
To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton, Oklahoma 3/11/02


> I don't know what the problem is, I still cannot get
> to the image it goes to a dead link instead, Try
> sending it to Mike_Harman@r..., see if this
> will work. I'd like to post the image on my web site.
> 
> Mike Harman
> UFO-PI Private UFO Investigations:
> http://www.homestead.com/ufopi2/index.html
> http://ufopi.freehomepage.com/index.html
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> To: <MCHARMAN@p...>
> Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> Oklahoma  3/11/02
> 
> >Ok, it's attached to this message.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <MCHARMAN@p...>
> >To: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> Oklahoma 3/11/02
> >
> >
> >> Could you please resend the UFO picture, I was
> unable
> >> to pull up the image from the link.
> >>
> >> Mike Harman
> >> UFO-PI Private UFO Investigations:
> >> http://www.homestead.com/ufopi2/index.html
> >> http://ufopi.freehomepage.com/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Original Message ---
> >> From: "Joe W." <joe73505@h...>
> >> To: <thehickmanreport@p...>
> >> Subject: Strange objects sighted west of Lawton,
> >> Oklahoma  3/11/02
> >>
> >> >I took the attached picture from my house on the
> west
> >> edge of Lawton just
> >> >minutes ago.  I was returning from some late night
> >> shopping at the local
> >> >Wal-Mart and noticed these objects in the distance
> >> moving around the sky
> >> >rather erratically.  When I got closer to home I
> >> realized these objects were
> >> >moving in my direction so when I got home I ran
> >> inside and grabbed my
> >> >digital camera.
> >> >
> >> >When I ran back outside the objects were nearly
> >> overhead.  I snapped only
> >> >one picture before they sped out of sight.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Mike Harman
> >> Arlington, Texas
> >> (817) 649-0537
> >>
> >>
> 
> Mike Harman
> Arlington, Texas
> (817) 649-0537
> 
>

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:07am
Subject: Re: http://www.thehickmanreport.com

> > Meanwhile, not a word to anyone else!  Like Mike said, this is
> > good enough to make a book jacket some day!

> Agreed, but did you notice the guy in alt.binaries.ufo.files (Jeet) that
> said:
> ">Looks kind of like the bottom of an infrared mouse...... Who
> >know's ha? If anyone know's please tell.....

I wouldn't worry.  The Roswell disk looked a lot like a radar 
reflector, but I notice that hasn't stopped many FTBs.

Bruce

From: Bruce Hutchinson  <bhutch@g...>
Date: Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:42am
Subject: Joe is a Success

Ok Carl... uh, sorry, I meant "Joe"

You is getting noticed!  Big time.

If you are going to really push this, Joe is going to need a 
credible "identity".  Need any help from the crowd? Might I 
suggest a 25 year old part-time worker living with his Aunt- who 
has a different last name.  That way, you can "hide" Joe's 
existance in Lawton by not having a phone isting. The 
"researchers" may try to look you up, so you might need an 
excuse.

Is "Joe" going to have a last name?  If you haven't come up with 
one yet, may I suggest "Willy".  That way you can tell them that 
your wife (or sister, or aunt) is Mary Jo Willy.

Somehow, I doubt that the FTBs you are dealing with would know 
Earl, but the chance to use this as an "inside joke" here is too 
good to pass up.

Bruce